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Game 1 Recap: Cubs 5, Braves 16

I Returned to TCR to recap THIS?!?!

 

Box Score, Play Log, Game Graphs, Photos

 

W-  Lowe (1-0), calls for instant replay, people making their team or career debuts

L- Zambrano (0-1), dignity. 3 hours of my life

 

Things to Take from This Game

1.  Not So Good: Zambrano, Samardzija

Zambrano got knicked by a series of softly hit singles before giving up a 3-run home run to Neo Heyward.  Some throwing mistakes and a McCann homer in the second chased Zambrano from the game, having given up 8.   The fourth reliever in, Samardzija, walked three in a one third of an inning.

2.  Good:  Byrd, Marshall, Russell.

Byrd gave the Cubs a very early and short-lived lead with a 3-run homer in the first.  Marshall and Russell gave the Cubs a chance to get back in the game with a Ramirez 2-run Homer, as they pitched 4 and 2/3 of scoreless relief, before turning things over to Samardzija, Berg, and Grabow

3.  McLouth Lies like a Dog.  And Fakes It.  And Just Isn't Very Nice. 

Down 8-5 with Ramirez on 1st, Byrd smoked a liner to left center.  McLouth made a diving catch with the ball popping out on contact with the ground.  But McLouth faked the catch, threw it in, and the umpires, missing the call, declared Ramirez doubled off of first.   We went from having the tying run at the plate with no outs, to no on and two outs.  After Soriano predictbly ended the inning; it was all downhill from there.


 

The gory details, below

 

 

Game Recap

 

Inning 1 - Top

Trying to get settled in and find the game somewhere, anywhere, I turn in to espn3.com just in time to see Byrd hit a lined shot of a home run just to the right of dead-center.  Impressive.  3-0 Cubs


Inning 1 - Bottom

  • 3-2 count to Leadoff Hitter Melky Cabrera (heh), fasball just inside and it's a leadoff walk from Z.  Byrd's HR on opening day is the first time a Cub newbie has done that since Henry Rodriguez.  Any recap with a Henry Rodriguez shout-out is a good one.

 

  • Prado reaches for one, dumps it down the line in right, runners to 1 and 3.

 

  • Chipper pops to shallow center.  You could hear and smell the cubbery coming from a mile away, as it drops just behind Theriot and just in front of Byrd and Soriano.  Run scores, runners at 1 and 2.  3-1 Cubs
  • McCann pops another one to just-in-front-of-Byrd.  Bases loaded, no outs.
  • Z blows a 94 mph fastball high and inside past Glaus.  3-pitch strikeout.
  • Yunel Escobar with a chopper up the middle, two runs score tying the game.  None of these have been well-hit balls, yet it's 3-3.
  • Matt Weiters Chuck Norris Robert Redford Paul Bunyan Jesus Jason Heyward clobbers a low and inside fastball maybe 420 feet into the back of the bullpen in right-center.  6-3 Braves.
  • 3-0 to McLouth, now 3-1.  Walk.
  • Lowe bunts to Z, Fontenot covering.  Out, runner to 2nd.
  • Sean Marshall up in the pen.
  • Melky Cabrera (heh) fists one to Theriot, inning mercifully over.

 

 

Inning 2 - Top

  • Fontenot bounces one to Escobar's left, 6-3 putout.
  • Soto hits one to Chipper's right, makes a nice pick, 5-3.
  • and Z rolls one to Escobar, 6-3, easy inning for Lowe

 

Inning 2 - Bottom

  • Z whacks Martin Prado with a fastball off the elbow protector.
  • Cubbery Part Deux.  Jones rolls one past Lee, Fontenot and Z hook up for a nice 4-3.  Z then turns and fires to third trying to get Prado advancing to third, but the throw is high and wide, Prado scores.  Ramirez wasn't in any position to cover third, anyway.  7-3 Braves
  • McCann smites a ball deep into right field.  8-3 Braves.  Out comes LouPa
  • In comes Marshall.  If this is new, emotions-under-control Z, give me Cray-Z Z, anyday.
  • Glause K's on a curve near his feet.
  • Another nice curve, this time for called strike 2 on Escobar.  Fouls off another tough curve.  Finally grounds 5-3.

 

Inning 3 - Top

  • Theriot with an easy 6-3 chopper.  I am detecting a pattern, here.
  • Fukudome with a nice opposite-field liner just out of Cabrera's reach, down the line for a double.
  • Lee 6-3.
  • Ramirez takes a low fastball out to left of straight-away left.  Nice lined shot, classic Aramis.  8-5 Braves
  • Byrd with a pretty dumb swing at something low, for Lowe's first K.

 

Inning 3 - Bottom

  • Hercules Heyward lines out to Lee.
  • McLouth swings through a high fastball, K.
  • Swinging strike on another nice curve, Lowe's AB is done.  Nice work by Marshall.

 

Inning 4 - Top

  • Soriano squibs the first pitch, 4-3
  • Fontenot with an easy chop to Chipper.  Lowe is doing his thing.
  • Soto 5-3.  Little opposition put up against Lowe this inning.

 

Inning 4 - Bottom

  • Cabrera 5-3.  Marshall mowing them down.  Z's era is 54.
  • "With Zambrano, you just didn't expect this."  - Santo.
  • Marshall with a real sharp, big curve that hits the bottom of the strike zone, gets Prado looking.
  • Another curve for a called strike 3, this one on Larry Wayne Jones.


Inning 5 - Top

  • Marshall taken down for Chad Tracy.  2 and 2/3 IP, 5 K.  I'd have kept him in, but what do I know.  37 pitches for Marshall.
  • Tracy walks.
  • Theriot lines one to Escobar, doubles-up Tracy.  
  • Curve just off the corner, full count on Fukudome.  Walks on the next pitch.
  • Lee smokes one to right-center, McLouth makes an excellent, fully extended running catch to rob a double.

 

Inning 5 - Bottom

  • James Russell makes his big league debutHaven't had a  chance to watch much spring training, Russell is big, ugly, works quickly, sort of a severe 3/4 delivery.
  • and he gets McCann to roll out to Fontenot.
  • Glaus lines a single to the left-center gap.
  • Escobar flies to right
  • Jesus Caesar Rasputin Ric Flair Heyward looks at a high curve for a called strike three from Russell.

 

Inning 6 - Top

  • Ramirez reaches for one, slaps it to Chipper's left for a single.
  • Byrd macks one to the left-center gap.  McLouth makes a fantastic diving catch, but then the ground shakes the ball out of his glove, rolling on the ground before he picks it up.  Ramirez sees it come out and goes to second.  The ump rules it as a catch, however, causing Ramirez to be doubled off at first base.  Review clearly shows that it came out, but after conferencing, they uphold the double play.  Len and Bob correctly point out that none of the umps would have been able to see the ball coming out behind McLouth's glove and body, and McLouth sold it quite well.  Then on the other hand, if Ramirez can clearly see it, how can four umps miss it?  Bob asks.
  • Soriano up, he should be the tying run with nobody out.  Instead he's up with two outs and nobody on.  Ramirez is prety frustrated.
  • Soriano swings at a pitch in the dirt to end the inning.  Ouch.

 

Inning 6 - Bottom

  • McLouth with a slow roller off the mound, Fontenot fumbles the awkward hop, but it's correctly ruled a hit.  No, now it's ruled an error.  Meh.
  • Lowe chops a bunt off the plate, Russell goes to first for the out.
  • Ramirez shown shaking his head in disbelief at 3B.  Me too, Rammy.  Me too.
  • Len:  If Melky does well in Atlanta, and they name a street after him, it can be The Melky Way.
    • Oh, dear god.
  • Melky flies to right, McLouth to third.
  • Prado rolls to Fontenot.  Good work by Russell

 

Inning 7 - Top

  • Fontenot's error gets re-scored as a hit.  Good.
  • Peter Moylan in.
  • Over my wgn on mlb.tv telecast, I barely hear someone on ESPN on the TV mention that "Moylan comes from down under, twice."  - He's a siderarm/submariner from Australia.
  • Fontenot back to Moylan.
  • Soto K's swinging
  • Colvin makes his first appearing, pinch-hitting for Russell.  Flies to Heyward, just getting under it.
  • I am so sick of God Bless America being part of the Mid-Seventh Festivities.  No one felt the need to sing it until mid-September 2001.  It made sense to sing it, then.  Maybe we can retire it, ten years later?

Inning 7 - Bottom

  • Samardzija in.  I'm in mid-season form, correctling spelling Samardzija on the first try.
  • Jones walks.
  • Theriot is trying to ask for time as Jones gets about a four-step jump on Samardzija as he stands in the stretch.  Soto then tries to get up and call for time, as Samardzija starts to throw, realizes what Soto's doing, and lets up, lobbing in a ball.  Jones steals second.  Ugly.
  • Now McCann walks.
  • Full count to Glaus.  This isn't going so well for Samardzija.
  • fastball just off the outside corner, bases walked loaded.
  • Rothschild out.
  • Escobar lines a shot of a double through the left-center gap, fastball belt-high and middle-in.  Bases clear.  11-5 Braves.
  • Gilgamesh Heyward bounces to Lee, who throws way above Samardzija's head, scoring Escobar while Heyward goes to second.  12-5 Braves
  • McLouth K's looking
  • Hinske hits for Moylan.  Crushes one deep to right-center, stretches it into a triple with a bad relay throw.  13-5 Braves
  • Justin Berg in.
  • We're playing the infield in.  Bwaaaaaaahahahahahaaaaaa.
  • That said, it works.  Melky hits one right to Fontenot, 4-3 with the runner holding.  Brilliant!
  • Prado lines a single to the left of second base for a single, 14-5 Braves.
  • Fontenot makes an excellent diving grab on a Chipper liner to his right.  Inning mercifully over.

 

Inning 8 - Top

  • Saito in to pitch.
  • Theriot K's swinging at a slider low and off the plate.
  • Fukudome with a lazy fly to Melky
  • Lee K's swinging, Saito looks pretty good.

Inning 8 - Bottom

  • Berg walks McCann to lead off the eighth.
  • 2-0 on Glaus.  Rothschild out.  High and tight for ball four.
  • Brooks Conrad (who!?!?) runs for McCann.
  • This game's just a stinker.  (For you, kjk)
  • Escobar flies to straight away right, advanced Conrad.
  • Sparticus Luke Skywaker Hammurabi Indra Heyward lines a single back up the middle, scoring Conrad.  15-5 Braves
  • 2-1 to McLouth, Berg continues to miss high.
  • Most runs the Cubs have allowed on opening day since 1884.
  • McLouth walks.
  • Grabow in for Berg
  • Omar Infante pinch hits for Chipper, grounds to....  aw, I dunno, fuck it, someone, who cares anymore.  Run scores.  16-5 Braves
  • Conrad (I think) pops to foul territory, Theriot makes a nice running catch, worth 11 runs.

Inning 9 - Top

  • Wagner in.  K's Ramirez swinging at a slider low and inside.
  • Byrd pops to Prado at second.
  • Soriano K's swinging at a 96 mph fastball.  Wagner looks like he's back.

 

 

 

Parachat Recap

 

Inning 1

  • What have you done in your offseason, in six words?
  • Technical difficulties
  • You always know that things are going badly when Cholera appears.
  • Fantasy teams

Inning 2

  • Other games.
  • Chipper Jones, Conversation killer.
  • basting the lamb shanks
  • expressions of disappointment.

 

Inning 3

  • Will 8 runs win this game?
  • Why does Z keep getting the Opening Day assignment?
  • The new parachat sign-in, tougher and more inscrutable security than the airport.
  • Missing HRes while dicking around with your password
  • Recommended drugs/medications for Z
  • Marshall's time to Free Agency

 

Inning 4

  • First-day performances.
  • Soriano still is not good.
  • Which is higher, Z's era or his Emotional IQ.  (Now that's just mean, CT Steve).
  • "Marshall will open next season just like this one.  Starting in the second." - Mr. Whipple

 

 

Inning 5

  • 1st Johann's Mom reference of the year.
  • and Jacos links it to a Tiger Woods joke.  Very nice.
  • Jacos on fire:  Not only is Nady wearing Prior's number, he's also wearing Prior's arm.
  • What we'd ask Z after the game.
  • Where's Prior?
  • That Buehrle play.

 

 

Inning 6

  • The racial subtext of being "Raised right"
  • The bane of my existence, adds for The Blind Side
  • That botched call on the Byrd hit.
  • How to convince Fukudome that every day is opening day.
  • And Fontenot that he's two feet taller, Lee that it's 2005, etc. etc.
  • If only we could be hyponotized into liking some other team....
  • Lee's 2009 vs. 2005.
  • CANCER.
  • Is it your vasectomy that is making you snippy?
    • Oh, dear god.

 

 

Inning 7

  • Bad Answers to Essay Questions
  • Things we'd rather doo to our genitalia than watch this game.
  • the horrific Bogut injury
  • Chainsaws.
  • The GBA singer.
  • I'm Rupaul.  But don't tell anyone.
  • How to characterize the worst exams I'm grading.
  • How to characterize Samardzija's performance.
  • Misery.
  • Put in Lady Gaga!
  • Chainsaw vasectomies.
  • If you wagered that Samardzija would be better than Z, you lose.
  • How do we feel?

Inning 8

  • Forms of violation that remind parachatters of this game.
    • Creative analogies that I'm avoiding like the plague.
  • What might have saved this game.
  • Fan racism and booing players.
  • Stinker.
  • Insurance/Warranty scams.
  • global warming

 

Inning 9

  • Broadband access
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Comments

Well, "i know its only one game" but after seeing the Wide Out today, this unfortunately reinforces my belief that he is a bust - and predicted it here. Prove me wrong, Wide Out! I hate Notre Dame anyway.

yay for chainsaws and stinker in the parachat recap!!! I feel just like james russell making it to the bigs! awwwwwww.... (as read by dr. zoidberg.)

I think the game and parachat recaps on days when we lose are, if nothing else, far funnier than the ones on days we win.

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Future Date: Feb. 25, 2011 - Cubs pitchers and catchers reported today, and Jim Hendry said Carlos Zambrano "looks great", and finally "gets it". Hendry said Big Z seems to have finally matured, and expects a season of consistent good performance from the team's "ace". In a related note, today Tom Ricketts put the team up for sale on eBay.

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In reply to by DJH

Yeah, I guess we shouldn't be surprised. The ugly loss doesn't bother me too much as it is only one game and all. But what bothers me is the same crappy things happening again already (Z being Z, Alf K'ing, etc.). It is like things are what they are and won't be changing. This teams window is closing fast before the need to rebuild. STL is for real and I think it will take 93 wins for the WC. so hopefully this team can get out fast. Go Cubs!

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In reply to by The E-Man

It's a good thing the Cubs lost this game in such horrible fashion; spring training, the month+ of optimism and sunshine, doesn't give us much opportunity to work on our gloom and doom without looking unreasonable. Could we at least give the players a full week of sucking during the regular season before we point to that sample as proof that the team is not, never was, and will never be any good? Or do I have to avoid TCR in order to enjoy the simple fact that baseball is real again until I am in the mood to complain and say nay?

I want to see how long it takes Lou to put Soriano on bench for a couple of days when he continues to suck. Pitchers will keep on pitching outside to him until he adjusts or starts takin pitches. Fontenot will be ok,for what is expected. Soto i have no trust in he has to produce somewhere between 2008 and 2009.

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In reply to by rokfish

Soriano has already had a long and successful career. People act like he has never hit breaking pitches in his life. Trust me to have the career he has had, he has hitting breaking balls over his career. Sitting on the bench doesn't help him or this franchise. He isn't going to be treated like some scrub rookie if he doesn't hit after a few days. Besides who the fuck is going to replace Soriano's power in this lineup? Tyler Colvin? Is he our great savior? Gimme me a break that kid will be hitting .150 within a month.

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In reply to by MikeC

"Besides who the fuck is going to replace Soriano's power in this lineup? Tyler Colvin? Is he our great savior? Gimme me a break that kid will be hitting .150 within a month." The last time we saw this "power" you speak of was almost an entire year ago. He is clearly not the player he was when he signed with the Cubs. The player he was appears to be gone. Almost anyone could replace him now...

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In reply to by Ryno

And I love it, in the same post we get this little gem: "Fontenot will be okay." He's dog shit. I hate how Cubbie world plays favorites with their weak-ass favorite sons. Get over Fontenot. Contenders don't start guys like him.

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In reply to by Ryno

How about a nice game of Player A/Player B: In 2009: Player A, .242/.312/.411 Player B, .236/.301/.377 Edit: And sorry rokfish, no offense or anything. This is just a culmination of many things. I'm annoyed that the Cubs didn't improve this off season and a 16-5 loss really drives that home. I'm annoyed that Cubbie world thinks this is a great team and can't see how truly mediocre it is. I'm going to go to a tea bagger protest and throw some freedom bricks now to vent.

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In reply to by Ryno

"I'm annoyed that Cubbie world thinks this is a great team and can't see how truly mediocre it is." Who in Cubbie world thinks this is a great team? Clearly not managment or they would have spent money in the off season, would have traded for a relief pitcher when Guzman went down and would not have promissed three starts a week to Colvin. Not the press, or did I miss all of the articles that picked the Cubs to win the divison? Not the fans as many games are not sold out?

On one hand, the game really sucked. On the other hand, we got a game recap from Trans! I'd almost forgotten how much I love them! Thanks, Trans. It almost makes up for the stupid game.

It could be worse Baker could still be manager. Somehow he thought on Opening Day it would be cool to play his teams 4th and 5th Ofers in the starting lineup.

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In reply to by MikeC

Jesus. I totally thought you were being sarcastic. I can't believe he actually played his 4th and 5th OF on opening day. I guess ST really tired some of his starters out. I don't remember whose theory it was, but this reminds of the TCR theory that Dusty knows some "manager moves" that he doesn't understand. He uses them in order to appear managerial. So yes. It could be MUCH worse.

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  • Bill (view)

    That pretty well sums up the situation.  Epstein, the media and the fans became obsessed with the concept of a "window of opportunity" that had to be taken advantage of before it closed.  Thus the trade for Quintana, and the trade of Soler for crap.

    The way to deal with a "window of opportunity" is not to sacrifice everything to win, but to extend that window.  Epstein knew that he was having his best players, Rizzo, Baez and Bryant in the same year, with Contreras the following year, at the same time that the pitching staff was growing elderly and on the verge of declining.  A responsible administration would have moved one of the ""core" two years earlier, and a second one the next year, in order to prevent the otherwise necessity of "tanking" when they left at the same time.  they had to know that there was no way they could have all been extended, and still leave room for growth.

    Other than the Dodgers and the Yankees, no team can maintain a consistent level of production without a consistent flow of high ceiling, low cost controlled young players coming up from the farm.  We have lived through the errors of the past, and hopefully have learned enough from them to prevent a reoccurance of it in a few years.

  • TarzanJoeWallis (view)

    I think it was pretty clear that practically all of “the core” was going to be gone after the 2021 season and that utterly gutting the farm system to chase a championship with the same guys year after year until they all departed wasn’t going to end well. That was talked about as early as 2017.

    I don’t think it’s hindsight to say they would have been better off from a sustainability standpoint trading some of those pieces for the best prospect packages available and introducing some of the kids. For example, I was hoping real time they would trade Schwarber during the 2016 offseason to an AL team as a DH when the DH was AL only. Fresh off being a WS hero he could have fetched quite a haul. But, alas, he was a member of the vaunted, untouchable “core”.

  • TarzanJoeWallis (view)

    What would have surprised me is the Dodgers, who have traditionally been outstanding in evaluating and developing talent, giving away Busch for nothing. They obviously saw something in both of the guys. Perhaps one or both will be future superstars.

    That said, the old cliche is that the level of competition increases ten fold for every level moved up. Ferris and Hope both have a long way to go. We’ll just have to wait and see.

    For now, I’m watching Busch put the team on his shoulders while the presumed offensive star of the team flails and doesn’t seem to have a plan beyond “waiting for the numbers to even out”. 

    I thought it was a good and fair trade at the time - a talented but surplus guy for the Dodgers that filled an immediate need for the Cubs in exchange for potential pieces of the Dodgers future - and I’m awfully glad Busch is a Cub.

  • First.Pitch.120 (view)

    Mostly agree, but I don’t think it was as much “unshakeable faith” as it was a series of unclear choices in the moment that have become obvious with hindsight.  

    The upside outcome for the coming year for any player was always much higher than the return on selling. It was like Texas Hold’em purgatory of having 4 to an A-K led flush…  impossible to get away from. 


     

  • Dolorous Jon Lester (view)

    He works quickly too so all that happened in probably like 4 minutes 

  • crunch (view)

    as of now, zyhir hope is the dodgers #20 prospect on mlb.com (ferris #7).  he made 0 national "top 100" overall lists.  that may be a different story soon enough.

    if hope is not in the team top-10 by year's end i would be shocked.

    i don't know what happened between draft day and a couple months in arizona, but he got the attention of many organizations outside of the cubs when he showed up.

  • crunch (view)

    ...and he takes a comebacker off the knee on pitch 7.  out made, run scored.

    pitch 9 is a 3 run homer.  amazing.

  • crunch (view)

    wade miley (MIL) loads the bases on 5 pitches in the 1st.  that's a special kind of talent.

  • TarzanJoeWallis (view)

    While the Chapman trade helped to cement a championship I honestly think that trade was made in a different era. Nobody trades their best prospects for rentals anymore.

    The Quintana trade was a stinker from day one. It seemed to be a product of Theo’s unshakable faith in his 2016 “core” and the consistent and mistaken idea that they were always just one guy away from a return to WS glory. The mistake was repeated several times and I think that realization along with a general evolution in baseball thinking has helped to shape Jed and the way he operates today.

  • Bill (view)

    I had mixed emotions when I heard of the trade, as I have with most trades that involve high potential prospects.  But that is because I hate to trade a high potential prospect for a veteran with only a few years control, and with a much lower potential than the prospects give away.  I hated the trade of Cease and Jiminez for Quinta, because I viewed Quintana as a decent, but not top pitcher, being traded for two very high-potential prospects.  I disliked the trade for Chapman, because a high-potential prospect was traded for a rental, although in this case, the fact that the rental was a top player greatly softened the blow.  The trade of Ferris and Hope for Busch seemed even at the time, to be a good one, even though they gave up one of my favorite prospects.  The return was a high-potential prospect with 6 years of control, at a time when he could be a difference maker on the team.

    13 games hardly proves that it was a good trade, but at least it was a reasonable one, no matter how it turns out.  So far, so good.